Rallying Rear Spoiler

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Rallying Rear Spoiler

Postby SteveR2801 » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:07 pm

Hi, Just a quick question for the Rally boys,

What rear spoiler do you use and do you have to have Homologotion for it?

The Blue Book i understand is clear that no "aftermarket" spoiler is allowed, That being the case how do you get round being logbooked and having a rear spoiler.

I have a Replica touring car spoiler, G-Tech, and was wondering if anyone knew the E36 Homologation number for the touring car spoiler.

As my car is a E36 compact would I be able to use a touring car spoiler? the Blue Book says "Homologation for type" as mine is a E36, irrespective it is a compact is it fare to assume I can run a E36 touring car spoiler?

What are your thoughts?

By the way the car is just about ready for logbooking this weekend, It's a compact with 3.0L M3 so it should be reasonably quick, just got to get used to RWD haha always been FWD in an Astra

Thanks for your help

Steve
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Re: Rallying Rear Spoiler

Postby Sunbmw » Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:45 pm

I feel that I am the most experienced to talk about this, seeing as I have had no end of trauma...........

I have an exact replica of a spoiler taken from an E36 STW (supertourenwagen), I have homologation papers to show the shape and size, yet, because the STW/Touring cars were all 4 door saloons, the MSA would no issue my logbook with a picture showing that spoiler. (My car is a M3 Coupe by the way)

However, I now have a logbook showing no spoiler at all, but still have it fitted to the car, have scrutineered at 3 rallies and it has never bneen mentioned!!!!!

Th erule of tthumb is with spoilers/aerofoils, it is one rule for one, one rule for another, good luck!
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Re: Rallying Rear Spoiler

Postby notax » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:45 pm

I agree with Sunbmw - I'm running an M3 Compact and use a rear F2000 European spoiler used on F2000 Compacts in Europe. I have had long discussions with MSA but they won't approve it unless I get confirmation from BMW in Germany that it is approved for motorsport :evil:

I would advise NOT fitting your spoiler in the logbook photo - or when the scroot logbooks it. Make it quick release and use it unless a scroot prevents you at an event. I have now entered 3 rallies with the spoiler and no issues 8) Many other cars also use obviously aftermarket spoilers and have never seen one pulled - although Sunbmw's experiences are different I believe. Scroot interest may increase if you are seeded high - but in spite of good results I can't seem to get seeded above 25...

Good luck with you car - hope to see you at an event - where are you based?
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Re: Rallying Rear Spoiler

Postby SteveR2801 » Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:28 pm

Thanks Guys, decided not going to bother with a spoiler, even if it looks cooler with one on !!!

Anyway good news passed my logbook inspection, a litle bit of tinkering and we should be ready for the Lynn Stages Rally at Scullthorpe on 7th Nov.

I am up in Sheffield and we are having a 2 M3 Compact team at this event, if anyone is there come over and say Hi.

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Re: Rallying Rear Spoiler

Postby notax » Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:22 pm

Gutted, would have been at this event but on holiday instead. Have a great time and give Alan in the Aston Martin a run for his money :D

Hope to see you at another event sometime soon.
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Re: Rallying Rear Spoiler

Postby SteveR2801 » Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:55 pm

Pleased to announce that the event was well worth the trip to East Anglia, great stages and brilliant organisation.

First stage I was a bit nervous, firstly for having so much money tied up in the toy, secondly First competitive drive in RWD, Ohhhh and that nervous twitch you get when your holding the clutch on the start line. hahaha

All in all we had a great day out managed to finish with out any damage and even managed to push the car abit harder after Stage 1. the only problem we had was a stupid puncture on stage 5 which lost us 5 mins

Just a few little tweeks to the overall package and we should be sorted.

Thanks to Phil at PDL Motorsport for building the car, Ben and Cindy our service crew for the day and of course Dave Brown for being mad enough to sit in the "silly seat"

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Re: Rallying Rear Spoiler

Postby eddiee36 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:33 pm

Nice write up steve, glad to see another compact out there. How about putting some specs and pictures in the car section mate for us all to have a look and get ideas. :D
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Re: Rallying Rear Spoiler

Postby SidewaysSid » Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:08 pm

SteveR2801 wrote:....All in all we had a great day out managed to finish with out any damage and even managed to push the car abit harder after Stage 1. the only problem we had was a stupid puncture on stage 5 which lost us 5 mins

Steve


There's a first :D . Did the Astra ever finish without suffering damage :twisted: ? And you can put petrol in this one without jacking it up!
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Re: Rallying Rear Spoiler

Postby SteveR2801 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:22 pm

Ha ha ha Sid,

leave the Astra alone, it was a good car, if a bit of a handful to drive, you were stupid enough to sit beside me :lol: Anyway never caused any damage to it on the Northwest Stages...... well we didnt do enough mileage till the engine gave up the ghost

So yea may be a first I didnt hit anything of once :D

Steve

Ps I'll try to post some pics and a spec of the car in the car section when I have time

think the next event will be Christmas Stages at Croft
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