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Re: E36 Compact S50B30

Postby mrfuzzyfelts » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:13 am

Why have you cut off so many brackets, such as washer bottle etc? you making custom ones?
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Re: E36 Compact S50B30

Postby driftnething » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:34 pm

The car will be used in the UK under MSA regs, and the brackets are all from things which will not be used apart from the washer tank which will be relocated inside the car. The hole saw is coming out soon too!.

After some more thought the multipoint bolt in safety devices cage looks like the way I will be heading.

Having a few days off from this project as I have a lot of work to do at the minute. Just want to get cracking though... :(

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Re: E36 Compact S50B30

Postby rearwheelsteercompact » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:59 pm

driftnething wrote:The car will be used in the UK under MSA regs, and the brackets are all from things which will not be used apart from the washer tank which will be relocated inside the car. The hole saw is coming out soon too!.

After some more thought the multipoint bolt in safety devices cage looks like the way I will be heading.

Having a few days off from this project as I have a lot of work to do at the minute. Just want to get cracking though... :(

Will

Hi Will,

You have a pm :wink:
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Re: E36 Compact S50B30

Postby mrfuzzyfelts » Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:18 am

I have the multipoint bolt in safety devices cage in mine..

Without a doubt the best bolt in cage i have ever had myself.

16 point fitting, and a great fit.

buy direct from PDL Motorsport and say your doing the BMW Compact Cup to get the discount 8)
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Re: E36 Compact S50B30

Postby norasport » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:33 pm

I couldn't help spotting my old Compact M361 JUH in the workshops. If you need some history let me know. Mike
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Re: E36 Compact S50B30

Postby driftnething » Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:39 pm

Ahhh yes, she is undergoing a bit of a revamp and a change of spec (from tarmac to gravel) for the recent new owner :).

It is a good car and I look forward to seeing Colin getting some seat time in it!
Maybe I shall add another thread for it when I have time.

I would love to know any info anybody has about the car too :-)

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Re: E36 Compact S50B30

Postby norasport » Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:42 pm

The whole build is on here! see "M52 2.8 Compact Stage car" It was a long build, but other than my team finishing it off, DTA ecu, adding tarmac suspension, and doing the jobs to get it logbooked, it's all on there. All the best with it Mike.
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Re: E36 Compact S50B30

Postby driftnething » Tue May 12, 2015 10:46 pm

I have been a bit busy lately to update or work on the car, but I have managed to start reinforcing the trailing arms and do some shopping.

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I am awaiting my Safety Devices roll cage.
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I picked up an M sport rear bumper/lights (tarty bits I know, but I think they look much nicer!)
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A Z3 steering rack (I wish I never spent so long cleaning up the E46 rack now!)

New wheel bearings, handbrake shoes/backplates/cables/fitting kit/discs and a wheel stud/nut conversion kit.
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Solid rear beam mounts.
I also had a batch of steering spacers machined and have assembled my linkage.
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I also have some odd's and sod's - boot retaining clips, omp belt cutters, poly wishbone bushes etc.
I also bought some new coilovers. I didn't want used suspension on the car, so I bought a set of BC coilovers. Eventually when the car is done (and I have put some road and or testing miles on it) I will get something better.
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Re: E36 Compact S50B30

Postby mrfuzzyfelts » Wed May 13, 2015 4:14 pm

Why change from E46 rack to E36 Z3. The E46 one is actually better 8)
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Re: E36 Compact S50B30

Postby Garry.M » Wed May 13, 2015 6:19 pm

mrfuzzyfelts wrote:Why change from E46 rack to E36 Z3. The E46 one is actually better 8)


Depends on which 46 rack it is,,, the purple tag one moves 50mm per rev of steering wheel and the Z3 moves 52mm. Most of the other racks only move 45mm per rev
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Re: E36 Compact S50B30

Postby driftnething » Wed May 13, 2015 7:42 pm

Exactly that reason Gary. I now have the better rack.

The z3 (non "//M") rack is the best standard rack as far as I am aware - without going for the mega expensive aftermarket 2.2 turn pas rack (£750+vat).
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Re: E36 Compact S50B30

Postby mrfuzzyfelts » Thu May 14, 2015 10:06 am

The z3 is 2.7 turns

The purple E46 is 3.0 turns

They are Exactly the same speed racks but the z3 is only 2.7 due to it not having as much travel / lock

Am i wrong? :P

I have a z3 on mine, but would never bother again after finding this out
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Re: E36 Compact S50B30

Postby driftnething » Fri May 15, 2015 1:07 pm

Car-----------mm/ per. turn--------BMW Part #
E30------------36.5 mm------------32 13 1 092 335
E30 M3---------38 mm--------------32 13 2 225 556
E36 M3 '95------39 mm--------------32 13 2 227 191
E36-------------45.5 mm------------32 13 1 096 280
E36 M3 96+------45.5 mm-----------32 13 1 096 280
E36 Z3 M---------45.5 mm-----------32 13 1 096 280
E46 Std-----------50 mm------------32 13 6 755 065
E85 Z4 M----------51 mm------------32 13 7 836 844
E36 Z3 non-M------53.5 mm----------32 13 1 095 575

I just (quickly) measured two racks in the workshop, one was a purple tag rack which was just over 50mm/rev. The other a z3 rack which seemed about the same - If they are different there is not much in it.

I also measured one of our quickracks and it actually has 63mm/revolution. A vast difference of course. However - I don't have £750+vat laying around for a steering rack at this point.

I could not check overall travel as the z3 rack is standard and the purple tag rack has lock spacers fitted.

I need to strip them all down and measure accurately later.

Interesting though, I thought the z3 rack was faster than the purple tag rack but maybe not. Potentially just wasted £160!

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Re: E36 Compact S50B30

Postby Garry.M » Fri May 15, 2015 1:19 pm

I wasn't interested in the lock to lock,,,, I wanted to know how "quick" it was,,, I have both racks - so I measured the travel myself to see what the distance of travel per revolution. But to keep things cheap for rallying I'll be using the purple tag on mine.
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Re: E36 Compact S50B30

Postby driftnething » Tue May 19, 2015 11:21 am

The cage is going in!

Fitted and the plates are part welded, now to remove the cage, fully weld the plates and then cut the dash.

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