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Re: Daishag's M3 Powered E36 Compact

Postby avtovaz » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:10 pm

Daishag wrote:Martin, it seems Cliff wants to do a test session up at 3 Sisters as Keith Dothwaite (Little Legs)
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Re: Daishag's M3 Powered E36 Compact

Postby Daishag » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:10 pm

Proper photo of the lamp pod fitted not just me holding it in place with a can of Stella on the bonnet :oops: :oops: :oops: LOL !!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Daishag's M3 Powered E36 Compact

Postby bruvs1 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:58 pm

looking forward to seeing it break the top 10 on the enville :lol: ............no pressure!! :wink: oh and foxy too :D
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Re: Daishag's M3 Powered E36 Compact

Postby Daishag » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:22 pm

Took the BMW up to the local quarry this morning and put her on the wiegh bridge, with 1/4 tank of fuel and no spare wheel in her she weighed in at 1180kgs
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Re: Daishag's M3 Powered E36 Compact

Postby mef » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:54 pm

Not as light as I was expecting, 100kgs less than mine though!

I managed to run out of fuel this evening in mine, luckily only 200 yards from home! I knew it was very low, was just doing a short drive around the block to test the steering again! It seems to use a lot of fuel, what's yours like Dai?

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Re: Daishag's M3 Powered E36 Compact

Postby Daishag » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:53 pm

Yeah Martin, She seems to go through Fuel like fresh air :cry: :cry: :cry: Its gone through 2 and half jerry cans so far since ive built her the odd starting and running session in the garage and noise test after the exhaust was fitted and ive only driven it 3 times on the road approx 25 miles in total with approx 5 - 10 miles in them 25 being hoofed up to approx 120 - 130 on the speedo SO YES they are bloody heavy on juice :roll: :roll: :roll:

As for weight by the time i put the spare wheel in her, jack and brace etc, spill kit, and the rest of the s**t you gotta carry round with a bit more fuel it won't be far off the weight of yours mate !!! I was hoping for a little bit less but to be fair she is a proper built shell from BMW and the ol 6 pot engine is a big ugly lump etc and just another thought Cliff's is 1144kgs all up with aprrox 3rd of a tank of fuel, spare wheel, and all the s**t you gotta carry etc but his has all Alloy WRC hubs, alloy calipers, alloy Bells etc etc BUT still has all the glass windows fitted so theres a bit to be saved there on his.

On my budget i really don't know what else i can do to shed more wieght without spending a s**t load of cash on flash alloy and carbon items etc

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Re: Daishag's M3 Powered E36 Compact

Postby Daishag » Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:57 pm

Right i was bored at the weekend and since ive noticed that a fair few people on here all ready running the big 6 pot engines in E36 Compacts have had a few problems with the original BMW alloy engine mounts snapping on large yumps.

I made these at the weekend, a couple of jig's so i can make some strengthened steel ones up, and be sure they will fit so all ive gotta do now is get some steel to make them LOL

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Re: Daishag's M3 Powered E36 Compact

Postby bruvs1 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:05 pm

good move dai, we snapped a set on the e30 but then tigged up the standard ones and had no bother since. m54 compact has a very beefy set! :wink:
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Re: Daishag's M3 Powered E36 Compact

Postby Daishag » Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:24 pm

Right ive fabricated the O/S engine mount to replace the std M3 Alloy one that everyone seems to have the problem with snapping etc, see what you think it should be far stronger than the std item and should'nt give any more problems.

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I will fabricate the N/S one up tommorow and get them powder coated next week.

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Re: Daishag's M3 Powered E36 Compact

Postby Daishag » Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:42 pm

I did'nt like the look of the end of the O/S engine mount so redesigned it so it did'nt look like a pair of tits !!!!!

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And after doing that i fabricated the N/S one out of the same CDS tubing and steel plate

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So i will trial fit them this week to make sure they fit perfect but can't see why not as they fit the jigs i made and then i will send them for Powder Coating. They are slightly heavier than the Std Alloy ones BUT hopefully i will never sufer a retirement or loss of stage time due to a broken engine mount as has happened to other people on here !!!!!

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Re: Daishag's M3 Powered E36 Compact

Postby notax » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:49 pm

Looking good! I have also snapped a few engine mounts - definately worth upgrading.

I'll stick my compact on the corner weights when I have a chance and see how it compares to yours. I'm now running light wheels, carbon dash and plastic windows so it should be pretty light... but then it does still have that big old lump up front...
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Re: Daishag's M3 Powered E36 Compact

Postby Daishag » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:59 pm

Trial fitted them this morning and they fit a treat so its off to the powder coating place 2mw.

I would like to get mine or a set of proper corner wieght scales with everything in her, as yeah she wieghed in on the local wiegh bridge at 1180kgs but that was with 1/4 of tank of fuel, and no spares, no safety equipment such as triangle, spill kit, 1st aid kit, and no tools such as jack wheel brace etc so it all adds up.

Obviously i would like to know the front and rear ratio and also side to side ratio of the wieghts now as well, as you've said Chris mine runs Lexan Windows, GRP Panels, Pro Race 1.2 Wheels which are'nt the strongest by all accounts but they are bloody light, but im still running Std Cast M3 Calipers and other bits and bobs due to my budget etc but would be good to get it wieghed professionly like.

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Re: Daishag's M3 Powered E36 Compact

Postby alan1272 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:14 pm

out of interest, what size cds tube did you use Dai? i'm gonna have to make some mounts for a little project and i'm not sure what size to go for.
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Re: Daishag's M3 Powered E36 Compact

Postby Daishag » Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:01 pm

Alan to be honest its just some CDS i had left over from either fitting this BMW cage or the various other cages ive fitted so off my head i really don't know but im sure i have some more lying round if you need soom mate, and i will measure the mounts for you.

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Re: Daishag's M3 Powered E36 Compact

Postby Daishag » Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:57 am

Right just a quick up-date yesterday i had the car on the Rolling Road and Enda ward of End Tuning came up from Birmingham area to re-map her etc.

We were able to utilise the rollers at a local college free of charge for the best part of 4 - 4 1/2hrs so a huge thanks to all the staff at Llandrillo College, Rhyl Campus for the help and to Stuart Frost for actually driving her on the rollers etc !!!! Quick video by one of the students is on the link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYBmNSYqFLA

We had real broblems to begin with, as the car kept lighting the wheels up on the rollers, after some adjustments of how the car sat on the rollers and some eager students perched in the boot we finally got her gripping and reading some out puts. The results are tabled below Run 1 was as the car was just after a quick check for faults etc and runs 2 - 5 are with diffrent maps and settings etc by Enda, see what you think ???

Norm Power - Engine Output - Wheel Output - Drag Output - Torque

1st Run = 221,5KW (301,2ps) - 215,5KW (293,0PS) - 169,5KW (230,5ps) - 46,0KW (62,5PS) - 323NM
2nd Run = 218,5KW (297,1PS) - 212,5KW (289,0PS) - 168,0KW (228,4PS) - 44,5KW (60,5PS) - 324NM
3rd Run = 212,5KW (289,0PS) - 207,5KW (282,2PS) - 171,5KW (233,2PS) - 36,0KW (48,9PS) - 322NM
4th Run = 218,0KW (296,4PS) - 213,0KW (289,6PS) - 170,5KW (231,8PS) - 42,5KW (57,8PS) - 328NM
5th Run = 212,0KW (288,3PS) - 207,0KW (281,5PS) - 175,0KW (238,0PS) - 32,0KW (43,5PS) - 328NM

All Max Power Figures on runs 1 - 4 were at between 7100 and 7400rpm at approx 100mph, except for run 5 which was at 6790rpm and at 90mph. All Max Torque Figures were between 4900 and 4950rpm excpet for the 1st run which was at 4270rpm. Air pressure was at 984mbar (which i was told was crap for rolling road runs but was the same for all 5 runs though) and temp was between 19 and 20 degrees.

Quick couple of questions though regarding the figures if any one can help out that is ???
A) What is the english figures ie BHP and Lbft etc etc
B) Even though the wheel figure has increased after the various diffrent maps by approx 8PS the est Norm Power and Engine Power has dropped quite a bit, why would that be then if the wheel figure is up ???
C) The wheel drag has steadily dropped off between runs BUT surely as the tyres got hot and sticky as i used Pirelli hard compounds surely the drag would increase ??? kept a steady 32psi in the tyres as well.

All thoughts and comments welcome and again a huge thanks to all at Rhyl College and also Enda for trying his hardest to get some more out of her, but since he said her 1st run as she was, was pretty damn good anyway.

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